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Old 18th November 2015, 09:44
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Was the Tilbury tank at Leicester for a particular reason ?


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Old 20th November 2015, 22:26
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Cheers Crab very informative.

Been trying to work out which sheds would have provided locomotives from the north passing through Leicester. With my limited amount of books I am having to look on the net but a complete list is hard to come by. Obviously kentish town provided from London. But from Manchester Sheffield and even york plus lundidno (hopefully spelt correctly but probably not) I can't seem to pin down which sheds provide the locos by the web. I can find shed codes but can't be sure which ones would have provided MML.
MML expresses through Leicester were mainly operated by these depots
Kentish Town (14B)
Leicester (15C)
Nottingham (16A)
Derby (17A)
Trafford Park (9E)
Millhouses (19B)
Holbeck (20A, later 55A)

Local & semi-fast passenger services would be mostly operated by (for example) Saltley, Nuneaton, Burton on Trent, Kettering depots (in addition to 16A & 17A). You might also get locos ex-Derby Works being used on 17A duties.

Freights would probably come from almost any LMR depots within about 100 miles from Leicester. The main MML flows would be between Cricklewood, Wellingborough & Toton or Rowsley. But there would also be a lot of coal & mineral traffic from Leicestershire & neighbouring counties.

So, locos from distant depots like Crewe North (5A), Crewe South (5B), Stoke (5D), Heaton Mersey (9F) and elsewhere are quite feasible. In the closing years of steam, LNER/ER Class B1 were feasible on services from Peterborough, and summer saturday services from the east coast resorts.

You might be interested in this list of the steam locos I saw on a visit to Leicester shed in May 1963:
41227/28/79
42087/184/279
42334/338/355
42827
43964/969/977/988
44030/034/403/414/530
44804/811/847/920/962
45253
48037/089/510/632/651
61328
73136/156
84029
90665
92108/110/119/123

Also present were a few of Classes 08, 27, 45, 46 (as they became under TOPS), plus
Departmental shunter ED4.

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Old 21st November 2015, 15:26
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Thank you very much bevan. That will help drawing up a list of locos to model I feel a fair bit of re-numbering coming up starting with my ever increasing number of black 5.

Know I have to make my mind up about dates to model 1950-55 or extend to 1960. Which would allow me to keep all my pats rebuilt pats/scots though I'll have to evoke Rule 1 for princess R's C's which I can't bring myself to sell considering how much effort they take to build.
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Hi Farren,
I would refer you to the book "British Railways Steam Locomotives Allocations" by Hugh Longworth, ISBN 978 0 86093 642 8. It details every loco allocated to every shed between those dates. It is an expensive book but a "must" for your reference library.
I echo what others have said. Have just got this book and it's worth every penny. Hugh Longworth deserves a big 'thank you' from all British railway fans, historians and modellers. Steve.
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When you start to realise that the last BR steam revenue service ran in May 1967 - that is 48 years ago! No-one under the age of 52/53 would ever remember them. We need reference books and researchers such as Hugh Longworth to enable us to keep our dreams alive.
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When you start to realise that the last BR steam revenue service ran in May 1967 - that is 48 years ago! No-one under the age of 52/53 would ever remember them. We need reference books and researchers such as Hugh Longworth to enable us to keep our dreams alive.
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August 1968.
11th August 1968, The Fifteen Guinea Special from Liverpool to Carlisle via Manchester and return, four separate steam locos hauled it at different stages if I recall correctly.
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Old 24th November 2015, 20:16
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Thanks John, I stand corrected; 11th August 1968 it was.
Now you know why I need the reference books! The grey matter is slowly beginning to misfire now and again.
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