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Old 19th December 2009, 21:19
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Well John, Brunels atmospheric railway was similar in principle and the only problem was that the material used for the vacuum pipe either rotted or rats bit holes on it.

The basic principle beinghaving the power source at one particular location and distributing the means of propulsion.
In fact, with better technology which we now have, we could probably have another crack at it.
There is no doubt that the Atmospheric Railway was an interesting technology but given present economics I think electrification is a better option!

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Old 19th December 2009, 21:24
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[QUOTE=John H-T;36415]There is no doubt that the Atmospheric Railway was an interesting technology but given present economics I think electrification is a better option!

I am with you on that one it is very interesting but its dead no way will it happen.

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Old 20th December 2009, 14:22
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I have to ask, is there actually any HST's with the original engines left in?
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I have to ask, is there actually any HST's with the original engines left in?
The ones with the buffers do, don't they? They with Grand Central?

Or am I imagining this?
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Old 26th December 2009, 16:44
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Are you thinking of the electric 225 units?
They have always had buffers but the 125s have never had buffers.
Yes you are right about them.

It is interesting to think about what is to become of the 225s in the future.
At the moment they have a long life ahead of them on the east coast and I do hop they live through another 20 years before a new design is even considered.
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Wrong SFE! A number of HSTs WERE fitted with buffers around 1990-ish.

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Old 26th December 2009, 19:28
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Regarding my last posting concerning HSTs with buffers, here's a photo of such a thing, 43068 at York in 1991:
http://daverowland.fotopic.net/p56019810.html
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Keep going lads, this is a very intersting thread, I am reading with interest.

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Old 27th December 2009, 07:12
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Well as much as I want to believe all of that Rassy I can't.
We need to start using energy saving bulbs and to recycle now.
Even if global warming is not true (which it most likely is but not as drastic) then natural resouces are.
If we use fossil fuels less then we can keep using it for the essential aspects of life or find a way to make it last and neutralise the emmissions.
The effects of pollution are obvious in the city.

When the ice caps are concerned they cannot be melting fast as the temperature is still far below zero all year round.
Enough to keep it at the present thickness anyway.

Back to trains- I would like to see some designs for a hydrogen powered train as they could well be the future.
Hydrogen is of course the most abundant thing in the universe and the only emmission would be water.
I think that this excess water could be used to power a steam booster.

To the original topic- all of the HST's have been re engined so none of the original examples exist.

PS: you may have noticed I am not using commas where they are needed recently and this is because the comma button is on the blink.
"Dya" want to borrow one mate, I have got a spare keyboard !!
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