Help please - Lake District to London Route 1909

[ellam]

Hello everyone!

I'm still a train amateur and a research assistant to a historical fiction author. I've been trying to find out details about what route someone would have taken from the Lake District to London in 1909, specifically which stations they would have gone to and what changes they would have made.

From my research so far, I am guessing that someone travelling from Esthwaite Water would have taken the Windermere Branch Line from Windermere Station, then changed at Oxenholme, to perhaps then take West Coast Main Line south to London Euston.

I know that at the time, Lake Windermere was a very popular destination for visitors from London, so I was wondering if there was perhaps a more direct route?

I've already been in touch with the National Rail museum, but they only said I should come to York to look at their archived timetables, which I'm unable to do.

Any help is very much appreciated!

Thank you!
Ella
Researcher and Train Novice

[ianrail]

Originally Posted by ellam

Hello everyone!

I'm still a train amateur and a research assistant to a historical fiction author. I've been trying to find out details about what route someone would have taken from the Lake District to London in 1909, specifically which stations they would have gone to and what changes they would have made.

From my research so far, I am guessing that someone travelling from Esthwaite Water would have taken the Windermere Branch Line from Windermere Station, then changed at Oxenholme, to perhaps then take West Coast Main Line south to London Euston.

I know that at the time, Lake Windermere was a very popular destination for visitors from London, so I was wondering if there was perhaps a more direct route?

I've already been in touch with the National Rail museum, but they only said I should come to York to look at their archived timetables, which I'm unable to do.

Any help is very much appreciated!

Thank you!
Ella
Researcher and Train Novice

Ella

Welcome to the Forum and yes, I think this is exactly the route they would have taken.

Ian

[46232]

Not entirely a nailed on certainty that the change at Oxenholme is the only option. It is quite possible that a London bound traveller around that time would have been able to use a through train, or at least a through coach attached to another train, to London without the need to change at Oxenholme.

As Windermere had through services beyond Oxenhome to Lancashire it is possibile that the traveller would change at Preston or even Lancaster which would have a greater frequency of London bound trains than were available at Oxenholme.

[trophy]

when did the lakeside connection with the steamer start .? where would the trains to lakeside originate?

[Ploughman]

The Lakeside line opened in 1869 so it would be perfectly feasible to take a lake steamer from Windermere pier or local boat from the Hawkshead Ferry Stage down the lake and get on a train at Lakeside Station.
However a change would be required at Ulverston as the junction faced the wrong way.

The more logical route would be as stated from Windermere to Oxenholme and direct service to London.

[ticketsmustbeshewn]

Bit late for this reply probably but funny you should say 1909, there is currently (17 April) a copy of a reprinted Bradshaws guide from 1910 on ebay open for bidding. I managed to get a copy recently & it's fascinating, would certainly aid your research.