Loco hauled services on the WCML

[martin adamson]

VT are going to be using loco hauled services on the WCML as from when they do work on 390 units which I believe to be around May. It will see either class 87's or 90's being used on Euston to West Midlands serivces.

[Trev]

That's the problem with abandoning the tradition of locomotive and carriages. If something goes wrong with a glorified bog cart, the entire train is out of service.

[John H-T]

I understand that the air flushed loos can cause problems with the brakes!

[Trev]

Originally Posted by John H-T

I understand that the air flushed loos can cause problems with the brakes!

Air flushed loos! They'll be using Timken roller bearings in the flush handle next!

[martin adamson]

I was hoping the loco hauled services would make their way further up north, e.g. on Euston to Manchester services, last time I went on a loco hauled service on this route was just over a year ago, being hauled by 87002, I believe this loco may well be used on the loco hauled services later in the summer.

I much prefer Mk3's anyday, they seem to have a much nicer atmosphere comapred to a pendolino. What I thought was a strange choice was VXC's use of Mk2's on the Man Picc - Bham NS services, they should have used Mk3's, they would have matched the DVT being used and they could have included a buffet.

[martin adamson]

Loking at the loco hauled services on the VT network currently, the MK2 + Class 90 set are still being used, last Tuesday the set was made up of an ex Anglia first class coach, I have a photo that will soon arrive on my fotopic site. Thewre was talk a while ago that VT would use a DBSO instead of a DVT for extra accommodation, would love to see more Anglia stock at Piccadilly.

[James60059]

Originally Posted by David A Hicks

What I thought was a strange choice was VXC's use of Mk2's on the Man Picc - Bham NS services, they should have used Mk3's, they would have matched the DVT being used and they could have included a buffet.

I agree, but on the other hand, its got to be better than a Voyager - may the loco-hauled services continue for years to come