Sleeper trains to Scotland?

[John H-T]

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John H-T.

[viaamtrak]

Originally Posted by LesG

The Aberdeen/Inverness/Fort William one is I believe 14 coaches. 6 to Aberdeen, 6 to Inverness and 2 to Fort William. At Edinburgh, where it splits, the lounge car and seated sleeper coach are attached to the two berth coaches to run on a normal passenger train (by which I mean you can buy Edinburgh to Fort William tickets for it in the seated sleeper) and leaves at 0450. Going to Fort William as far as Edinburgh, passengers are required to share the seated sleeper portion of the Inverness sleeper where a change is required.

Not wishing to be too pickie as this is a little bit wrong.

The Edin Wav to Aberdeen normally does have 6 coaches formed of 4 sleepers a lounge and the seating coach/guards van hauled by a 67.

The Edin Wav to Fort Bill I believe has 4 coaches 2 sleepers a lounge and the seats/guards van hauled b a 67

The Edin Wav to Inverness IS normally 8 coaches 6 sleepers a lounge and the seats/guards van this past week being hauled by 67011 Mon and Tue, 67019 on Wed and 67009 on Thurs and Fri I know this as I was driving the thing.
Wed and Thurs we brought up 9 coaches with the extra 1 having just come off tyre turning etc to be brought back into service from Inverness CSMD.

So coming off Lon EU that would make the train to Edin wav formed of 18 coaches hauled by the 90.

Les

Les I have a quetion for you? Is your run from Edin Wav to Inverness and then back that same night? Just wondering?

[LesG]

Originally Posted by viaamtrak

Les I have a quetion for you? Is your run from Edin Wav to Inverness and then back that same night? Just wondering?

The way we work this job from Inverness is this,

Because of the hour restraints that we are regulated by we can not go Inv-Edin wav-Inv in a shift, that would be about 13.5 hrs on duty(a big no no) so the driver that takes the train out at 2038 hrs (2025 on a Sun) takes the train to Stirling then drives a car back to Inverness. Another driver then books on around 0100hrs drives a car to Stirling and works the train back to Inverness.

The only deviation is on a Thur and Fri when the Inv-Edin driver on arrival at Stirling then drives to Mossend to work the Lairg fuel tanks north then takes them back south on a Fri night and drives back from Mossend. The Sleepers are worked by Mossend men on a Fri night and Sat morning.

Not an ideal way to work the job but it does keep the work at Inverness and us employed.

Les

[EltonRoad]

Originally Posted by LesG

The Aberdeen/Inverness/Fort William one is I believe 14 coaches. 6 to Aberdeen, 6 to Inverness and 2 to Fort William. At Edinburgh, where it splits, the lounge car and seated sleeper coach are attached to the two berth coaches to run on a normal passenger train (by which I mean you can buy Edinburgh to Fort William tickets for it in the seated sleeper) and leaves at 0450. Going to Fort William as far as Edinburgh, passengers are required to share the seated sleeper portion of the Inverness sleeper where a change is required.

Not wishing to be too pickie as this is a little bit wrong.

The Edin Wav to Aberdeen normally does have 6 coaches formed of 4 sleepers a lounge and the seating coach/guards van hauled by a 67.

The Edin Wav to Fort Bill I believe has 4 coaches 2 sleepers a lounge and the seats/guards van hauled b a 67

The Edin Wav to Inverness IS normally 8 coaches 6 sleepers a lounge and the seats/guards van this past week being hauled by 67011 Mon and Tue, 67019 on Wed and 67009 on Thurs and Fri I know this as I was driving the thing.
Wed and Thurs we brought up 9 coaches with the extra 1 having just come off tyre turning etc to be brought back into service from Inverness CSMD.

So coming off Lon EU that would make the train to Edin wav formed of 18 coaches hauled by the 90.

Les

A small point, but the train is formed of 16 coaches at Euston as this is the maximum number that the platforms can accommodate. The lounge car and seated coach for the Fort William portion are added at Edinburgh. If you're travelling to Fort William from Euston you sit in either the Aberdeen or Inverness seated coach (I'm not sure which) up to Edinburgh, then are asked to move to the Fort William portion.

[steam for ever]

actually there are 3 coaches to fort william- i saw them whilst travelling on the jacobite.

[Eccles71B]

Originally Posted by steam for ever

actually there are 3 coaches to fort william- i saw them whilst travelling on the jacobite.

It was four when I did the trip in July 07 and that's the usual number, two sleepers, the lounge car and a seated car. Which was missing when you saw it?

[steam for ever]

I didn't see a lounge car.

[LesG]

Originally Posted by steam for ever

I didn't see a lounge car.

There was a trip off Inverness a couple of weeks ago where I had to knock a lounge car off as maint were unable to fix it, So this may [B][U]May[U][B][a fall back from that.

Les